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Post by Larry Laffer on Mar 9, 2007 15:44:52 GMT -5
*revs up for a rant* Ok, first and foremost, I must say that I'm a picky reader, if I don't like the beginning or the intro of a fan-fic I just don't read it... But now onto the rant.... I hate it when horny little teens pair up the SM characters, like Ami-Rei, Minako-Makoto, Usagi-Rei or Usagi-Luna/Artemis( ) and other sh*t like that... I mean COME ON!!! I can understand they loving each other but why do they always get drunk, get horny, and very explicitly have their way with each other? I also hate when the author adds 10 new senshis... Ok, I can understand the need to add new senshis, but really, does Sailor Moon and co. need a whole bloody army of warriors? And while on topic of weird additions... why does everybody feel the need to turn the whole story 180 degrees and make sure that every single inner is either evil, dead, or just plainly a retard? And why does Endymion/Mamoru/Darien/Tux decides to fall in love with any other girl , and/or (just as it was said before) molest Usagi/Chibiusa?
And what's wrong with all these fake names? I don't mean using both the original and english names.... I can live with that, but really are their names that stupid that they need to be baptized again?(if you don't understand... just try to guess who "Mina" and Jamie are)
Turning back to the pairing part for a second... why do ALL inners need to be paired up with one or more villain? and it's not actually the emotional tragic love that I can live with... no, it's just that the villains are "0ne big hunk of A manly man"... so shallow!
Here's another cliche: "Darien, a rich millionaire with two kids, a dead wife, nanny, and fiancee' what's a guy to do?" no comment needed....
And while I'm at this... "The Cinderella Syndrome" Queen Serenity is a bit*h, the inners abuse Serenity and she has to run away with the "barn-boy" Endymion... And what's the deal with "T3H B4d Memoriaes"? I mean wow, Serenity/Usagi had an AWFUL childhood, and all of a sudden she remembers, blows up, and starts bashing every single good character!
And since I got to long lost relatives... why is Beryl Serenity's natural mother and why is Galaxia her friend from kindergarten?
Oh, and let's not forgive the most important thing... PUNCTUATION... do you know how hard it is to read a fan-fic that has NO commas, exclamation marks or even FULL STOPS? For Christ's is it that hard to reach over and press one lowzy key?
ok... Rant over, you may comment now... Hope I don't have to add anything else to this one
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Post by Captain Foxy on Mar 9, 2007 16:49:01 GMT -5
I agree with you 100 %,Larry. Having teens getting drunk in the fics is inexcusible,in my opinion. That's sending the message that it's cool to get drunk. I've never seen the "Darien is a millionaire" cliche,but you'd be surprised and disgusted by all the G-rated fics(on FF.net) having swear words like s**t, pi**,damn,f**k and hell in them. And for all those different Sailor Scouts/Senshi..too many Scouts spoil the story. I only have 3 made-up Scouts in present day Tokyo, 4 made-up Scouts in a special "season"(which the 4 made-ups die in battle towards the end of the "season")and 5 made-up Scouts in the later Chapters of my Crystal Tokyo fics(when all the originals have either passed on or grown too old to fight anymore). The maximum number of made-up Scouts I have are 5. I never pair up the Inners with any villians..I always do Darien/Serena, Ami/Greg, Rei/Chad, Lita/Ken and Mina/some random guy.
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Post by +Lady Miki+ on Mar 10, 2007 14:00:18 GMT -5
*Claps* I enjoyed this rant very much....as for the inner/ villains thing....I could deal with it if it's a fic based on the manga.
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Post by tanzanite on Sept 7, 2007 14:53:15 GMT -5
Hell is a swear word?? honest curiosity, cause in spanish saying "Diablos", "Demonios", that both means 'devils' and is somehow related to hell, is not considered a swear word and I wouldn't like to offend anybody by accidentaly slipping it into a fic. As for the rants, most of them are great; specially the one about made up Sailor Scouts. I totally hate them!!! I mean, there are enough nice, sweet, kind, generous and pretty girls in the show already! The alternative pairings that might be somehow cannon: Serena/Seiya, Rei/Darien, Mina/Armand (the british boyfriend), Luna/ Reth Buttler (the big fat cat... well this is actually a joke). are perfectly O.K. for me cause they might hang from the little slip of pairing them at some point during the anime, even if the relationship didn't last. second... Who's Ken??? (the one paired up with Lita)
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Post by Captain Foxy on Sept 7, 2007 14:58:09 GMT -5
He was the hboy who was attacked by the pink lion that Ann and Alan sent out to gather energy in "A Knight To Remember".
As for "Hell",it's just a PG-rated word. After all,Maleficent said it in Disney's "Sleeping Beauty",and no one reacted to it.
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Post by +Lady Miki+ on Sept 7, 2007 15:00:05 GMT -5
In some places,people are offended if someone uses the word hell,depending on the context you use it in. Just be careful who you say it around.
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Post by tanzanite on Sept 7, 2007 21:53:32 GMT -5
Thanks, most of the fics I writed are rated T, anyways. But it's always good to know! And Thanks for the detail on Ken, I'll check him on the Mex dub
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Post by Captain Foxy on Oct 29, 2007 14:13:00 GMT -5
Other things that I hate about Sailor Moon fics:
all those "The senshi and Darien decide to betray Serena/Sailor Moon and Rei is the ringleader". Really-these kinds of fics have the senshi so OOC it isnt even funny,plus there's really no good logical reason why the senshi would turn on Serena,other than the horribly overused "Senshi are tired of Serena being late,slow and clumsy crybaby' cliche.
Another rant: Characters that are OOC for no reason. I've actaully seen fics where Minako was a homophobic jerk,Michiru acted like a man who had NO manners at all,Haruka was a cold-blooded killer who'd delight in killing a child,Serena's father is an abusive alcoholic..and not a single logical explanation or reason on why these ppl are OOC. These fics are not parodies,either-they're the serious fics. Really,people-if you're going to make the Sailor Moon characters OOC,at least explain WHY they're OOC.That way,no one will want to drill red-hot drill bits into their noses while reading these god-awful fics.
Yet another rant: Haruka and Michiru break up with eachother for good so one or both of them could become straight and marry/date men. Haruka and Michiru have a fight. Haruka and Michiru do not bother to work things out. Haruka and Michiru break up and become straight. does anyone else want to throw a hornet's nest upon their faces while reading these types of fics?
Anyone else have rants about these?
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Post by tanzanite on Oct 29, 2007 20:23:44 GMT -5
I think one of the most common OOC things in Sailormoon fics is that they oversweeten the characters.
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Post by Captain Foxy on Oct 31, 2007 9:04:51 GMT -5
Yet another rant: The stupid,childish and pointless fics that bash the US dub in one way or another. Really-what's the point of this? Nobody should care if characters have certain accents or don't have the original Japanese attack names. The point of fanfiction is to write to entertain people,not to bellyache about how Molly has a Brooklyn accent or about how Usagi's name was changed to Serena or how Rei's attack is "Mars Fireball Surround" instead of "Burning Mandala." You're supposed to be telling an entertaining story,not making people want jam pitchforks through their faces.
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Post by dacapo on Nov 1, 2007 3:40:36 GMT -5
Yeah, those fics are quite pointless. Be glad you've never been in the Sonic fandom though... it gets pretty stupid and wanky with all those pairing wars.
I probably would, however, make a fic poking fun at how Zoisite was dub-tranny'd XD
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Post by Lady1Venus on Jan 31, 2009 17:55:18 GMT -5
What do I hate about Sailor Moon fics....that's a very good question...
And here is my answer...
1) Yuri and Yoai to pairings to those who are not offical pairings. The only offical pairings for this type of genre is Uranus/Neptune and Zoisite/Kunzite. What is the big thing about doing pairings that aren't canon? It's plain sick, especially for those characters who are clearly straight. Just because some characters may have a close bond to the other, doesn't make them Yuri or Yoai...I have friends that I love but I'm not a Yuri.
2) Betrayal Fics....I mean come one people why would Guardians to the Princess betray their leader? So sometimes they don't see eye to eye on things but that doesn't mean a betrayal is needed.
3) Incest...That's just plain sick.
4) Trauma fics... Why do people get the sick fasnication of seeing the scouts suffer by being a rape victim? I can understand giving a character a rape case, but authors don't need to make all their characters rape victims.
5) Self Insertions... Now that's just plain dumb. I mean why do people want to read an author's idea of placing themselves in the story and making him/her into something they are not. It's nice to dream, but placing your dreams into a fic with you in it, that's not interesting.
6) Tuxedo Mask and Sailor Moon's first time.... Yeah, like hello, how many more times does a reader need to read their first time? It does tend to get boring in reading the same pairings first time in bed. There is more to life than sex.
7) Plotless Sex... If you want plotless sex, go do it yourself...To make a sex story good, you need to have a beginning, middle and end. There is no leading up to sex, so what's the point of the story.
8) Too much sex in the story... A story can get boring if there is nothing but sex in a story. Some people may find it interesting to read nothing but porn type stories, but not me...I like a good smut story but there has got to be more than just plain good sex and smut to a story. Get the other elements involved...drama, action, adventure, suspense, mystery...those are a good factor to a good story
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Post by yuichiro on Apr 6, 2009 17:54:40 GMT -5
1) Yuri and Yoai to pairings to those who are not offical pairings. The only offical pairings for this type of genre is Uranus/Neptune and Zoisite/Kunzite. What is the big thing about doing pairings that aren't canon? It's plain sick, especially for those characters who are clearly straight. I do agree with you when it comes to fanfic writers changing characters' well-defined sexual preferences. (And I find it equally disturbing when characters who are clearly homosexual in canon are changed to straight.) But I think for characters who don't have any clear sexual preference in canon, who aren't seen in any relationships (and even some who are seen in relationships -- just because they have a relationship with someone of one sex doesn't prevent them being open to both) it's okay for the writer to fill in the blanks, just as a fanfic writer may have to decide on a character's favourite food or colour when this isn't stated in canon. After all, sexual preference is a really deep aspect of one's character, and if you're going to give a minor character more prominence it's likely to be one of the first things you need to know -- or decide. As for characters entering into non-canonical relationships with each other, well, again, that's something that may well happen if you are giving minor characters more prominence, because it's true in the real world as well that people are not unlikely to fancy someone they work with (or study with, live nearby, etc), and if it happens to be mutual it might lead to a relationship of some kind. Now, I don't approve of pairing off existing characters with each other willy-nilly (statistically it's monstrously unlikely that everyone pairs up with other canon characters, who will be a small percentage of all the people they know) but in moderation I think it can deepen character development and make for a more meaningful and multi-layered story. That's my justification, anyhow. In my fanfic I do have a small number of characters who end up paired with other canon characters, including both heterosexual pairings (Cyprine / Asanuma) and homosexual (Tellu / Viluy). I try to approach it in an adult way, showing that the characters get together because their relationships mean something to them, and not just because the author wants them to get into bed. I can understand why I'm treading on dangerous territory here, but I still would never consider what I'm doing to be "sick".
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Post by Captain Foxy on Jul 19, 2009 16:29:14 GMT -5
Here's another thing I HATE about Sailor Moon fanfics: I've noticed that authors tend to target Serena/Usagi for eating disorders;it's like those authors think that only Serena/Usagi should be the only one to suffer from anorexia or bulimia. Hello? There ARE other senshi that can have eating disorders,too,you know. Senshi like Hotaru..Amy/Ami...Michiru/Michelle....Mina/Minako...why should Serena/Usagi always be chosen to have an eating disorder? Just because Serena wanted to become thin in ONE episode in season one doesn't mean people have to constantly make her suffer from eating disorders.That is just stupid,in my honest opinion.
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Post by Lady1Venus on Jul 19, 2009 16:39:24 GMT -5
Here's another thing I HATE about Sailor Moon fanfics: I've noticed that authors tend to target Serena/Usagi for eating disorders;it's like those authors think that only Serena/Usagi should be the only one to suffer from anorexia or bulimia. Hello? There ARE other senshi that can have eating disorders,too,you know. Just because Serena wanted to become thin in ONE episode in season one doesn't mean people have to constantly make her suffer from eating disorders.That is just stupid,in my honest opinion. I agree. Another thing that could be added there, it doesn't go with disorders but it does deal with Sailor Moon. Why does Sailor Moon get pegged for everything? Disorders, betrayal, hurt, rape, new lover and more. Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask always seem to get the peg for all story ideas. One Eyed Warrior is right. There are 8 other Sailor Scouts, Starlights, friends and even enemies to do these ideas with.
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